1st
why soul hound can steal buffs if tyrant is on force barier? force barrier gives you immunity to all atack if you don't take any action. so why soul hound still can steal buff?
2nd
why doombringer can stun and give dmg with rush impact to wind rider if he have Dodge activated? it's full immunity to all physical skills of other chars but not doombringer. archer/tank/tyrant none of them could stun me or give me any dmg with skill when dodge is active, but doombringer can.
i think it's bug.
ps. thx for any logical answer and sry for my bad english.
ps2. don't post shit like "you didn't used skills on time"
kamalols are a bugged raced - it's that simple.
edit: same shit on retail.
ask NCsoft
and its not bug, its same on retail
Quote from: jonek on December 28, 2009, 03:43:46 PM
1st
why soul hound can steal buffs if tyrant is on force barier? force barrier gives you immunity to all atack if you don't take any action. so why soul hound still can steal buff?
2nd
why doombringer can stun and give dmg with rush impact to wind rider if he have Dodge activated? it's full immunity to all physical skills of other chars but not doombringer. archer/tank/tyrant none of them could stun me or give me any dmg with skill when dodge is active, but doombringer can.
i think it's bug.
ps. thx for any logical answer and sry for my bad english.
ps2. don't post shit like "you didn't used skills on time"
1. immunity only for dmg nothing else
2. dodge windriding etc gives u skill evading that means only close range DMG skill not debuff like skills aka stun stun shot tribunal and so on(u didnt get stun from other classes scause doombringers stun is way easier to land)
EOT
Quote from: pokemontrainer on December 28, 2009, 04:14:12 PM
1. immunity only for dmg nothing else
2. dodge windriding etc gives u skill evading that means only close range DMG skill not debuff like skills aka stun stun shot tribunal and so on(u didnt get stun from other classes scause doombringers stun is way easier to land)
EOT
ad 1. ahahahahhahaa. change game pls
ad 2. again change game
if u can't enven read skill description with understanding, don't post sh1t on forum.
EOT for u naab. learn to read or better stop playing L2.
Quote from: jonek on December 28, 2009, 04:26:19 PM
Quote from: pokemontrainer on December 28, 2009, 04:14:12 PM
1. immunity only for dmg nothing else
2. dodge windriding etc gives u skill evading that means only close range DMG skill not debuff like skills aka stun stun shot tribunal and so on(u didnt get stun from other classes scause doombringers stun is way easier to land)
EOT
ad 1. ahahahahhahaa. change game pls
ad 2. again change game
if u can't enven read skill description with understanding, don't post sh1t on forum.
EOT for u naab. learn to read or better stop playing L2.
it is so u can flame how much u want even tho u have no idea about the game :) describtion of skills are sometimes wrong translated etc
U CANT EVADE DEBUFF SKILL u get debuff anyway doesnt matter u are evading dmg not debuffs
Quote from: jonek on December 28, 2009, 03:43:46 PM
1st
why soul hound can steal buffs if tyrant is on force barier? force barrier gives you immunity to all atack if you don't take any action. so why soul hound still can steal buff?
2nd
why doombringer can stun and give dmg with rush impact to wind rider if he have Dodge activated? it's full immunity to all physical skills of other chars but not doombringer. archer/tank/tyrant none of them could stun me or give me any dmg with skill when dodge is active, but doombringer can.
i think it's bug.
ps. thx for any logical answer and sry for my bad english.
ps2. don't post shit like "you didn't used skills on time"
1st
Makes user invincible against standard targets, skills and de-buffs for 10 seconds. Requires a hand-to-hand weapon. Requires 4th stage Energy.
Nothing about buffs canceling.
2nd
Allows user to evade short-range and long-range physical attack skills for 10 seconds.
long-range should be evade aswell
PS. if this discriptions are out of date, if it is so, post it plis
told u already learn to read.
if i can evade archer/tank/tyrant skill why not doombringer?????
again. learn to read. dodge give u immunity to close and ranged atack. if skill is physical u can evade it. so even it should stun me, it shouldn't give me dmg but it given.
to Deathwish
invincible to skills means for me any skill not some.
and yes ranged atack too but some ppl can't read.
so i guess u have played on retail and not me QQ
oh wait you`re one of those lolpws that run form zerker thinking they will avoid rush?
Read moar pls - Rush impact is a specific skill - you simply CANT avoid it. All you can do is stay near zerker and slap his ass.
As for buff steal - its not cancel its buff steal. pretty OP but send a petition to nc soft to change it not here.
Quote from: valandril on December 28, 2009, 05:29:59 PM
oh wait you`re one of those lolpws that run form zerker thinking they will avoid rush?
Read moar pls - Rush impact is a specific skill - you simply CANT avoid it. All you can do is stay near zerker and slap his ass.
As for buff steal - its not cancel its buff steal. pretty OP but send a petition to nc soft to change it not here.
"Rushes forward to attacks the enemies at the front with 4040 power added to P. Atk. and causes shock for 9 seconds. "
still dont see anything about "specific " or "simply CANT avoid"
Skill descriptions suck. Deal with it. Or go cry to NCsoft, here is wrong place
deathwish if youbelieve official nc soft descriptions/webpages and think they are 100% accurate you are a retard sir.
JFC .... will this guys ever get it ??? if you have a problem with that go protest in front of NC
Quote from: valandril on December 28, 2009, 05:29:59 PM
oh wait you`re one of those lolpws that run form zerker thinking they will avoid rush?
nope
Quote from: valandril on December 28, 2009, 05:29:59 PM
Read moar pls - Rush impact is a specific skill - you simply CANT avoid it. All you can do is stay near zerker and slap his ass.
it's nothing "specific" it's normal physical skill.
Quote from: valandril on December 28, 2009, 05:29:59 PM
As for buff steal - its not cancel its buff steal. pretty OP but send a petition to nc soft to change it not here.
barier is complete immunity for any skill so imo it should block buff steal.
to all "pro" players taling about description.
if i can avoiding any physical skill from other class i should be able to avoid kamael physical skills.
doesnt barrier work exactly the same like celestial?
you can still get debuffed on celestial afaik.
Quote from: Gawain on December 28, 2009, 08:51:13 PM
doesnt barrier work exactly the same like celestial?
you can still get debuffed on celestial afaik.
you can't get debuffed on celestial.
How nice, noobs that never played retail arguing with ppl that actually did and their argument is SKILL DESCRIPTIONS? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH! Skill descriptions are, 99% of the time, NOT 100% accurate. NCsh1t always makes vague descriptions for skills. They got better in gracia final but they are still faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from what they should normally be.
P.S. Aibo, can u please tell how many days u banned my main acc? Communism is dead, democracy is the new way of facking with ppl :'(
QuotePrecisely. Celestial type buffs should only stop direct modifications to hp/cp (HoTs should still work through celestial, not sure about DoT, but no direct damage or heal effect should work. That includes major heal, qhp, lethal, damage side of stun shot etc etc). However any debuff/buff removing skill should work just like it would without celestial shield, including and not limited by Cancellation and Steal Divinity.
And i think it's working like that here aswell.
k. force barier question answered.
what with rush impact? ok i can stun me but why it given dmg?
Quote from: jonek on December 28, 2009, 10:54:39 PM
k. force barier question answered.
what with rush impact? ok i can stun me but why it given dmg?
BECAUSE U GET DMG FROM DEBUFF LIKE SKILLS MORON
START TO READ WHAT AM I WRITTING or just shut the fuck up lock thread and go away
to off-topic, cry there
Quote from: Шабака on December 29, 2009, 01:58:52 AM
to off-topic, cry there
you could have said your opinion about whole this situation. to clarify some things to the topic creator.
to topicstarter:
This skills work as on EU/NA servers, so they cant be bugged
Quote from: pokemontrainer on December 29, 2009, 01:55:06 AM
Quote from: jonek on December 28, 2009, 10:54:39 PM
k. force barier question answered.
what with rush impact? ok i can stun me but why it given dmg?
BECAUSE U GET DMG FROM DEBUFF LIKE SKILLS MORON
START TO READ WHAT AM I WRITTING or just shut the fuck up lock thread and go away
:D +++++++++++
I should create some cry topic about tank shield stun or smth, it seems like fun :D
crybaby jonek; going down.
Quote from: Arris on December 29, 2009, 04:36:46 AM
I should create some cry topic about tank shield stun or smth, it seems like fun :D
Put 2min reuse on shield stun! HELL YEAH! XD
disable shield stun/bash !
ok if u take off buff steal as well!
lets go back to c4 imo
Quote from: pred5 on December 29, 2009, 03:25:09 PM
lets go back to c4 imo
No! QQ, not to the chronicle of mages!
c4 huh? ok i reroll sps - sleep cancel sleep nuke sleep nuke sleep nuke and repeat
best chronicle ct2,2.
gf:
lolimbalance with SOD elements
elements on kamaels,
100% porting at back shadow step imba
and every 78+ skills elementable what a joke
tanks having a debuff on hate lol
in this chronicle u dont even need to know to play ur char to rock
and i forgot how it became easy to farm dyna
Quote from: jonek on December 28, 2009, 03:43:46 PM
1st
why soul hound can steal buffs if tyrant is on force barier? force barrier gives you immunity to all atack if you don't take any action. so why soul hound still can steal buff?
Kamaels steal every buff... this is not bug.. Try to play official server of L2 then you will undarstend :)
How nice, noobs that never played retail arguing with ppl that actually did and their argument is SKILL DESCRIPTIONS? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH! Skill descriptions are, 99% of the time, NOT 100% accurate. NCsh1t always makes vague descriptions for skills. They got better in gracia final but they are still faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from what they should normally be.
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oh wait you`re one of those lolpws that run form zerker thinking they will avoid rush?
Quote from: jonek on December 28, 2009, 03:43:46 PM
1st
why soul hound can steal buffs if tyrant is on force barier? force barrier gives you immunity to all atack if you don't take any action. so why soul hound still can steal buff?
2nd
why doombringer can stun and give dmg with rush impact to wind rider if he have Dodge activated? it's full immunity to all physical skills of other chars but not doombringer. archer/tank/tyrant none of them could stun me or give me any dmg with skill when dodge is active, but doombringer can.
i think it's bug.
ps. thx for any logical answer and sry for my bad english.
ps2. don't post shit like "you didn't used skills on time"
In the case of the Soul Hound stealing buffs while the Tyrant is on a force barrier, it's possible that the force barrier only provides immunity to direct attacks and not to debuffs or other indirect effects. Alternatively, there may be a specific interaction between the Soul Hound's ability and the force barrier that allows the Soul Hound to bypass the barrier's protection.