What is the best subclasses to take for Adventurer and why ?
thanks for help ;)
I'm going to suggest classes with triggers and/or passives that are useful to you in both pve and pvp. (If you have a boxed buffer/cov/pof/pow dealer leveling should go smoothly)
1st - Tyrant, for Haste trigger, and because it's hella' easy to farm with it, that's why you should take it as first.
2nd - Archer, i'd go for HE because it's basically the toughest and has useful skills from the lot of them. Pick Evasion boost from this, not Crit. Chance trigger, it's useless.
3rd - A tank.
On all of the stages in sub-classing pick M.Def emergent skill (on 65 and 70), always, stack that shit!
If i'm wrong with this setup, professional dagger users can correct it. This is just what i'd roll if i had a dagger as my main... Good luck!
i would pick celest instead of ud
Is it problem what i choose first on subclass?
for example i take:
1) tyrant (for trigger haste)
2) archer (for crit chance or evasion boost)
3) sws or bd for celestial ?
if bad - correct me :P
James, what subbs u have?
I guess u are gk LordJames in game;)
My two cents are that just having evasion subskill isn't enough, you're also supposed to have your passives OE'd to at least second step.
u wana pve build or PvP
haste is for idiots because there is fixed reuse rate. It was good before gracia
Atm haste is the stupidest option.
pvp build:
Warrior Class (Gladiator, Warlord, Bounty Hunter, Tyrant, Destroyer,)
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flineage.pmfun.com%2Fdata%2Fimg%2Fskill0440_0.png&hash=4757eefe831a2bb730a7d8c1c19a18b138af26da) CP boost - Increase Max.CP +738 CP
Rogue Class (Hawkeye, Silver Ranger, Phantom Ranger, Treasure Hunter, Plainswalker, Abyss Walker,)
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flineage.pmfun.com%2Fdata%2Fimg%2Fskill1087_0.png&hash=86de564898cce18ffd268f23a77fc8ff4d7efa9c) - Boost Evasion - Increase evasion +4 Evasion
Enchanter Class (Prophet, Warcryer, Inspector, Swordsinger, Bladedancer)
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flineage.pmfun.com%2Fdata%2Fimg%2Fskill1418_0.png&hash=10c68845834c5a447a7c82909d29fde700dcf7f5) Counter Barrier - 3% chance to become temporarily invincible to damage (but not debuffs) when under attack - Celestial shield type of buff for 5-7 seconds
My friend is using atm
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flineage.pmfun.com%2Fdata%2Fimg%2Fskill0287_0.png&hash=d95aab54580f981e68aaaaa3461ca6e17bb73751) Resist Mental Increase resistance to Sleep, Hold, Paralize and Shock attacks +5%
because it is passive and it give u all time 5% resist. (instead of celestial)
haste is rape
#1 I wouldn't pick Celestial trigger because, simply because, it fucks up your bishop's capabilities to keep you alive, which even if it's for a small period of time sometimes it can be crucial. If you get back-stabbed once and your HP drops to let's say to like half or under half, and the Celestial triggers, the bishop can't heal you in that time (if he doesn't have Balance reused that is); time after which you can get back-stabbed once more and you're done. (That's my two cents on Celestial, why i didn't include it)
#2 @kvaser you're a dumb-dumb, Resist Mental doesn't work, it's a waste of certification. Tell that to your friend also. :D
#3 That CP Boost is useless, since you get CP lethaled A LOT these days. Just buy/make an S-grade shirt + CP, preferably Stripped Linen Shirt for the 700+ CP bonus and you're good to go.
#4 @Sardy, you'd be surprised what +4 evasion is and does for an 83+ dagger...
i suggest u
+cp boost
+evasion
+celestial
Quote from: kvaser on February 15, 2011, 11:20:32 AM
u wana pve build or PvP
haste is for idiots because there is fixed reuse rate. It was good before gracia
Atm haste is the stupidest option.
pvp build:
Warrior Class (Gladiator, Warlord, Bounty Hunter, Tyrant, Destroyer,)
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flineage.pmfun.com%2Fdata%2Fimg%2Fskill0440_0.png&hash=4757eefe831a2bb730a7d8c1c19a18b138af26da) CP boost - Increase Max.CP +738 CP
Rogue Class (Hawkeye, Silver Ranger, Phantom Ranger, Treasure Hunter, Plainswalker, Abyss Walker,)
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flineage.pmfun.com%2Fdata%2Fimg%2Fskill1087_0.png&hash=86de564898cce18ffd268f23a77fc8ff4d7efa9c) - Boost Evasion - Increase evasion +4 Evasion
Enchanter Class (Prophet, Warcryer, Inspector, Swordsinger, Bladedancer)
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flineage.pmfun.com%2Fdata%2Fimg%2Fskill1418_0.png&hash=10c68845834c5a447a7c82909d29fde700dcf7f5) Counter Barrier - 3% chance to become temporarily invincible to damage (but not debuffs) when under attack - Celestial shield type of buff for 5-7 seconds
My friend is using atm
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flineage.pmfun.com%2Fdata%2Fimg%2Fskill0287_0.png&hash=d95aab54580f981e68aaaaa3461ca6e17bb73751) Resist Mental Increase resistance to Sleep, Hold, Paralize and Shock attacks +5%
because it is passive and it give u all time 5% resist. (instead of celestial)
Correct.you dont need haste in pvp because it has realy low chance to land and because you have it already in passive skills from your class.
cp is good in dagger because you can do one more hit(700 cp is good :P imo)
evasion>all in dagger(not sure about that but this is what i believe)
and cele is a skill that you may need in a ''bad'' time :P
Quote from: Addi on February 15, 2011, 11:59:30 AM
#3 That CP Boost is useless, since you get CP lethaled A LOT these days. Just buy/make an S-grade shirt + CP, preferably Stripped Linen Shirt for the 700+ CP bonus and you're good to go.
#4 @Sardy, you'd be surprised what +4 evasion is and does for an 83+ dagger...
well cp shirt plus 700 cp from sub makes you even stronger with 1,5k more cp. so my vote goes for cp.
ahhh and yeah +4 evasion makes big difference on dodge too , so evasion goes great for a dagger.
celestial could keep your ass alive.
Quote from: Addi on February 15, 2011, 11:59:30 AM
#1 I wouldn't pick Celestial trigger because, simply because, it fucks up your bishop's capabilities to keep you alive, which even if it's for a small period of time sometimes it can be crucial. If you get back-stabbed once and your HP drops to let's say to like half or under half, and the Celestial triggers, the bishop can't heal you in that time (if he doesn't have Balance reused that is); time after which you can get back-stabbed once more and you're done. (That's my two cents on Celestial, why i didn't include it)
#2 @kvaser you're a dumb-dumb, Resist Mental doesn't work, it's a waste of certification. Tell that to your friend also. :D
#3 That CP Boost is useless, since you get CP lethaled A LOT these days. Just buy/make an S-grade shirt + CP, preferably Stripped Linen Shirt for the 700+ CP bonus and you're good to go.
#4 @Sardy, you'd be surprised what +4 evasion is and does for an 83+ dagger...
didnt know that mental doesen't work ... my friend told me it is his pick but i am more in this celestial/cp+evasion.
Dagger need a evasion cert for shure ...
cp + celestial is an option u can pick all certs u wana but in my opinion those are best u can get ... ofc u can invest in some other onest for example - Crit.dmg Reduction Reduce the amount of received critical damage 5% crit.dmg decrease
but when i played a dagger i took those 3 i told before
Quote from: skaj on February 15, 2011, 12:01:06 PM
i suggest u
+cp boost
+evasion
+celestial
this.
ud should be ok aswell
knight ud celestial and evasion
taking cp is pointless, haste is pointless and resist trait is bugged on this server
celestial is way better than UD , at least for me :)
Quote from: skaj on February 15, 2011, 02:40:25 PM
celestial is way better than UD , at least for me :)
read what i wrote
Quote from: hello on February 15, 2011, 02:54:31 PM
Quote from: skaj on February 15, 2011, 02:40:25 PM
celestial is way better than UD , at least for me :)
read what i wrote
i answered to riv , didint even saw what u writed:)
Quote from: hello on February 15, 2011, 02:40:16 PM
knight ud celestial and evasion
taking cp is pointless, haste is pointless and resist trait is bugged on this server
bugged?
even that resist triat + moira or moraia dunno (that set +50% paralys resist) won't help u against SLH on retail
Quote from: SERGEIDRACUENOV on February 15, 2011, 03:03:54 PM
Quote from: hello on February 15, 2011, 02:40:16 PM
knight ud celestial and evasion
taking cp is pointless, haste is pointless and resist trait is bugged on this server
bugged?
even that resist triat + moira or moraia dunno (that set +50% paralys resist) won't help u against SLH on retail
no
I prefere PVP.
So i do:
-celestial
-evasion
and no idea about last >:(
haste is for fast blow spams since with rene and champ there is nice reuse
Quote from: LordJames on February 16, 2011, 03:12:40 PM
haste is for fast blow spams since with rene and champ there is nice reuse
which game?
haste = pve mode
Quote from: LordJames on February 16, 2011, 03:12:40 PM
haste is for fast blow spams since with rene and champ there is nice reuse
let me gues u are from lay low or ooc top farming pt ?
Quote from: Jared on February 15, 2011, 08:05:49 PM
I prefere PVP.
So i do:
-celestial
-evasion
and no idea about last >:(
cp and ud is uslesss but mby am i wrong?
Quote from: kvaser on February 16, 2011, 05:07:52 PM
Quote from: LordJames on February 16, 2011, 03:12:40 PM
haste is for fast blow spams since with rene and champ there is nice reuse
let me gues u are from lay low or ooc top farming pt ?
And let me guess, you are from TZ ? ::)
Dude, stop pulling satirical posts on the General section and go vent your idiocy on Flame section.
I would suggest:
1)cele (has a 3% chance to activate, but can last 5-7 secs so can save ur life even in oly)
2)+CP (more useful in oly)
3)evasion (cos it's a passive +4 evasion and u have it no matter what..)
I wouldn't suggest:
Knight UD - cos even if it activates with a 3% it gives u only a +20% p.def/m.def for 15 secs, so if for example u have 1000 pdef, it will just go 1200 p.def...not that big of a deal
Counter Haste - If u want it for pvp. For farming etc it is ideal, but dont base on it during pvp or oly match...you will get its bonus if u hit with normal hits and activates (but with dagger u barely ever hit with normal hits) so..kinda useless.
Quote from: Addi on February 17, 2011, 12:41:20 AM
Quote from: kvaser on February 16, 2011, 05:07:52 PM
Quote from: LordJames on February 16, 2011, 03:12:40 PM
haste is for fast blow spams since with rene and champ there is nice reuse
let me gues u are from lay low or ooc top farming pt ?
And let me guess, you are from TZ ? ::)
Dude, stop pulling satirical posts on the General section and go vent your idiocy on Flame section.
u are so smart because i can read from my signature : good boy
now go farm more
wich are best subclasses for hierophant?
Quote from: orlando on February 17, 2011, 12:24:12 PM
wich are best subclasses for hierophant?
cele , CP / Knight UD, counter spirit