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1. what u think about solution with decrease number of boxtrade in RULES 1.3 from Unlimited to 2 per one IP?
this give less number of shop in town and reduce little lag there (in town)
2. can GM check fenrir (wolfs) status and change them to OFF in TOWN like Strider! many time at low PC cant move becasue fenrir in town block road or block npc shop etc! this make game little hard at low PC ?
3. check buy shop without adena ... many ppl set storebuy without adena .. and near that shop they set second shop with sell items .. its SCAME METHOD ... example in Rune char: superADENmarket >>> sell DB SHAFT 3.9kk ... char: Didmus >>> buy DB SHAFT 6kk without adena at him .. rang between 2shop its near 50 .... when u want sell to Didmus Shaft u see only info: You dont have enought adena.
dont think i buy and i want sell ;) more expensive .. i dont .. i only show idiot what try scame other ppl
4. what about CASTLE for that clan what take them in "FAME" siege ? at what about CRP from siege in that clan ?
points 1 and 2 should decrease little lag at server
points 3 and 4 its SCAMMING
Agree with everything ,and also want to add that the MAJOR problem,for those lags after restart is the trade bots which spam log in when server is on "Light" and we're having this terrible delays on log in/duppings/skill enchants/enchantings with enchants and attribute stones/crystals ,everything on this lags. . . in my opinion to manage to clean all this mess among 10k players+ is hardly belivable without making a rollback.
Decreasing the amount of shopbots allowed per IP would render them near useless, for the other options I don't have any comment, but in my opinion its far more important to fix the shopzones, because as it is now it's causing a lot of frustration and it shouldn't be too much work to adjust that. And to spend a lil bit more time/having a working petition system for report of "ebay" shops would be good. It's rather destructive for the servers reputation when you log in-game and see a couple of " WTS ADENA ICQ 759435764" shops the first thing you do.
Quote from: Aravalen on January 18, 2011, 02:01:41 PM
Decreasing the amount of shopbots allowed per IP would render them near useless, for the other options I don't have any comment, but in my opinion its far more important to fix the shopzones, because as it is now it's causing a lot of frustration and it shouldn't be too much work to adjust that. And to spend a lil bit more time/having a working petition system for report of "ebay" shops would be good. It's rather destructive for the servers reputation when you log in-game and see a couple of " WTS ADENA ICQ 759435764" shops the first thing you do.
and that's why it was necessary to do .... after taking limits of boxtrade ping / lag will decrease ... and people will start to create a normal shops without cheating other poeple ....
now a lot of players run bots because they know that they can trick the other players with stupid shops wtb / wts the same items in range 50-100 at 2store
while limiting the number of stores and OFF Wolfs in town:
- lag in town will go down
- server lag and problem decrease
- roads in town should be better to go without blocked at stupid fenrir
- npc should be batter to target if fenrir disapear in town
fvck the boxtrades that way we have overloaded server. no because of REAL players.
//le whos in game can post here a screen with over 5-10 boxes with similar nicks. sell majestic sell dc sell tall sec drac etc
so with they buy, and those shiets are everywhere. who needs those over 2k boxes?
it will be also good if from time to time some gm checks the game just to check towns for "wts adena,rur for euros cheap icq 11233122311" it take less than 5 mins to check towns for that crap. and for whatever else they are needed
Quote from: RomineK on January 18, 2011, 03:23:25 PM
now a lot of players run bots because they know that they can trick the other players with stupid shops wtb / wts the same items in range 50-100 at 2store
No, a lot of ppl are running shopbots because not everyone have the ability to keep several clients running 24/7. Tradebots gives the ability, for ppl who are not in the major zerg clans, to make money by playing the market, not to mention that the prices for shots and many other things would be higher if it wasn't for the tradebots. Seriously, who would keep a normal client running, wasting a lot of electricity just to make a few millions profit from crafting and selling ssc? Now with the shopbots there's plenty of ss shops up, since when you are able to have many shops running at the same time, you can afford to put lower prices and sell a lot of shots as a compensation.
Quote from: craftz0r on January 18, 2011, 03:26:30 PM
//le whos in game can post here a screen with over 5-10 boxes
http://img19.imageshack.us/i/shot00028p.jpg/ only 7 trade bots here )
Quote from: Aravalen on January 18, 2011, 04:38:45 PM
No, a lot of ppl are running shopbots because not everyone have the ability to keep several clients running 24/7. Tradebots gives the ability, for ppl who are not in the major zerg clans, to make money by playing the market, not to mention that the prices for shots and many other things would be higher if it wasn't for the tradebots. Seriously, who would keep a normal client running, wasting a lot of electricity just to make a few millions profit from crafting and selling ssc? Now with the shopbots there's plenty of ss shops up, since when you are able to have many shops running at the same time, you can afford to put lower prices and sell a lot of shots as a compensation.
i dont write OFF ALL BOTS .. but to reduce unlimited to 2-3 per one IP adress ..... i think this decrease 3k "ppl" here
Quote from: dem0 on January 18, 2011, 04:43:14 PM
And this kind of server with off files, is made for 6k connections without problems for other players or any database. they can push it to 8k push as you saw everything went crazy, db was fucked, item lags and so on. just because we have over 9000 tradebox and things. as real players how many they are? 5k ?
2-3 clients including tradebox for the same MAC should be enough imho.
i write about it ... GM should decrease number of boxtrade what we can log ... that sh1t make lag and problems with server
hell yeah, devs say server is overloaded and yet they say unlimited tradebots big WTF there
set it to 3 max 5 and server will be populated for ppl who actually play and aint standing afk all fking day...
I think about off that f.. trade bots and do normal offline shops
tbh.. i believe that the tradebots takes a lot less resources than a normal player does...
1.3 Log in more than 3 characters (opened clients) simultaneously. Important: number of trade
bots is unlimited.
imo there should be sth like that
"Lon in more that 3 characters (opended clients or trade bots) simultaneously"
Tradebots uses minimal ammount of resources and bandwidth especially after recent changes. You're looking for soultion where it can't be found.
Quote from: Arcain on January 18, 2011, 07:30:14 PM
Tradebots uses minimal ammount of resources and bandwidth especially after recently changes. You're looking for soultion where it can't be found.
minimal resources... mayby on computer, but on server?
what's the difference between regular char and trade bot?
At trade bot you have everything: your stats, chat, inventory, skills, etc. - all info from db as regular char.
Yes problem of server is trade bots and wolfs and not zillion duped items,skills and CRP.......get a grip they don't want to fix OBVIOUS abuse of ppl with rollback and you think they will fix wolfs coz your crappy PC's?
Still miminal and much lower badwidth compared to regular client. The only issue could be after server restarts but since bots always logs before players they're no real threat. Yesterday's issues were most likely cause by adminis trying to fix TW, badges and lost fame what could lead to sieges being restarted few times and eventually crashing server cause even more problems. There was no major problem with such a big online and tradebots with even more features (chat spam, fishing etc) till last saturday.
If you "lag" in town either get a better hardware or enable lower settings.
Quote from: Arcain on January 18, 2011, 07:30:14 PM
Tradebots uses minimal ammount of resources and bandwidth especially after recently changes. You're looking for soultion where it can't be found.
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Quote from: Arcain on January 18, 2011, 07:30:14 PM
Tradebots uses minimal ammount of resources and bandwidth especially after recent changes. You're looking for soultion where it can't be found.
they are hammering the login to after a restart right?
for me there is no difference
log trade bot = log normal char
oh... yes log trade bot is faster due to no graphical effect
Quote from: craftz0r on January 18, 2011, 07:59:04 PM
Quote from: Arcain on January 18, 2011, 07:30:14 PM
Tradebots uses minimal ammount of resources and bandwidth especially after recent changes. You're looking for soultion where it can't be found.
they are hammering the login to after a restart right?
Yes, plus there seems to be 10 minutes delay every restart when you can't log using regular client but tradebot fits in sometimes. There's also login delay feature in l2w which that helps. I remember a drama not so long ago for autobanning tradebots that spammed login too hard ;-)
Quote from: Arcain on January 18, 2011, 07:30:14 PM
Tradebots uses minimal ammount of resources and bandwidth especially after recent changes. You're looking for soultion where it can't be found.
reducing the ammount of tradebot WOULD help the problem, they don't use resources due to not rendering graphics but they use bandwith just as another l2 not to mention some people have like a trillion of them at the same time.
probably they won't help us coz it would remove their called title THE MOST populated server, lets say u change tradebot for offline shops, and u get how many ppl online??
there should be a client limitation so that only 2 clients could be openned on the same computer. this should include game client + bot trader
Quote from: Sardy on January 18, 2011, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Arcain on January 18, 2011, 07:30:14 PM
Tradebots uses minimal ammount of resources and bandwidth especially after recently changes. You're looking for soultion where it can't be found.
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Quote from: JaCoX on January 18, 2011, 11:31:27 PM
probably they won't help us coz it would remove their called title THE MOST populated server, lets say u change tradebot for offline shops, and u get how many ppl online??
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Quote from: JaCoX on January 18, 2011, 11:31:27 PM
probably they won't help us coz it would remove their called title THE MOST populated server, lets say u change tradebot for offline shops, and u get how many ppl online??
What would it change? You could still leave the same char offline with a shop.There are maybe 1k tradebot shops total, probably even less and not like they have so HUGE influence on server performance and eats most of its bandwidth.
1k tradebots? while some ppl have 10 lol
Some have 10 and some has none. It doesn't mean that everyone on the server has a tradebot and using it. You even had MVs screenshot somewhere with total online at 9400 and about 1500 shops in total.
Quote from: Arcain on January 19, 2011, 12:56:35 AM
Some have 10 and some has none. It doesn't mean that everyone on the server has a tradebot and using it. You even had MVs screenshot somewhere with total online at 9400 and about 1500 shops in total.
and i posted u screen with max players cap 8k
and then baho posted screen with 10k cap
ur point?
photoshop
Quote from: Rasolomampoinon4 on January 19, 2011, 12:58:39 AM
Quote from: Arcain on January 19, 2011, 12:56:35 AM
Some have 10 and some has none. It doesn't mean that everyone on the server has a tradebot and using it. You even had MVs screenshot somewhere with total online at 9400 and about 1500 shops in total.
and i posted u screen with max players cap 8k
You posted a part of some screenshot with part of l2net that shows some online on some server with unspecified date/time. Sorry, but that doesn't proove anything at all.
maybe some GM answer here what think about it what i post ? :>
Muslim bots did it.... ::)