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Title: SWS certificates
Post by: gotham99 on December 24, 2010, 01:55:51 PM
ok guys i need your opinion about certificates on sws
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: bsrealm on December 24, 2010, 02:00:47 PM
Mage pt or fighter pt? Whats your playstyle? What equips do you have or will you get?
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: Guardian on December 24, 2010, 02:01:11 PM
critical chance sertificate thats for sure :D
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: gotham99 on December 24, 2010, 02:05:46 PM
i am playing in mage pt  and im thinking of haste (trigger) , celestial  (trigger) ,and focus (trigger) but 3 triggers is too much mb?
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: Arcain on December 24, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
Get focus as master ability instead of trigger. More usefull.
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: Thorkla on December 24, 2010, 02:24:11 PM
passiv focus
warrior haste
celestial
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: Chris V. on December 24, 2010, 02:33:08 PM
passiv Empower, Healing Empower and Mana Drain imo.

Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: ayozito on December 24, 2010, 07:21:58 PM
haste,celestial,summoner
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: Flaky on December 25, 2010, 12:31:01 AM
I think it's soulution to take crit chance,haste,celestial shield .. If you going to do oly/pvp ..
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: Raziel on December 25, 2010, 12:44:10 AM
Quote from: Thorkla on December 24, 2010, 02:24:11 PM
passiv focus
warrior haste
celestial
this
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: 1s1knhjs))) on December 25, 2010, 03:42:41 AM
l2r certification
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: wooley on December 25, 2010, 04:44:21 AM
/thread ninja

What about Doomcryer certs?

Celestial / UD / *something* ?
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: YeasZ on December 26, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
if you're in mage party, it's pointless to take things like focus or haste.....
better to take boost CP/UD/celes, better to play it as defensiv swm when you'll not even have song of hunter and haste
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: Flaky on January 09, 2011, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: YeasZ on December 26, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
if you're in mage party, it's pointless to take things like focus or haste.....
better to take boost CP/UD/celes, better to play it as defensiv swm when you'll not even have song of hunter and haste

+1 for this.. but even if he isn't in mage party I think thet this is the best certs ;)
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: SplichO on January 09, 2011, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: Arcain on December 24, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
Get focus as master ability instead of trigger. More usefull.
Also even if it is a mage pt why is a problem to have attack speed pot lvl 2, also wolf and you can use this same pot on wolf and you get everything else except wampiric rage, but Dominator can give you almost same Combo buffs except it doesn't got haste (chant of blood awakening)
Mage set up goes with dance always con+mystic+siren     songs   renewual medi earth warding (for farming) as for pvp if you got a normal EE in pt you can always add on this Hunter+Fury and offc Vitality+Element song (tho like 90% of server that farms in HB stacks dances/songs with nobl buff not sure if is legit to do so).

AS + MW (concetration more accuracy)+ Haste SA+ 150 holy +PvP and you will rock with SWM.
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: Flaky on January 09, 2011, 10:24:15 PM
Quote from: wooley on December 25, 2010, 04:44:21 AM
/thread ninja

What about Doomcryer certs?

Celestial / UD / *something* ?
Celestial / UD / Summoner Spirit :)
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: bolo5 on January 09, 2011, 10:26:29 PM
lol, cmon splicho u can never rock as swm unless u got ultra boosted(ica/vesper 300 dagger cd) 2 rings if not dont even waste mana for fighter song/dance in mage pt rofl
every swm should go as defensive built imo
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: YeasZ on January 09, 2011, 11:35:37 PM
YES !!
As+haste, trigger haste, trigger focus, trigger summoner spirit, and you'll be an amazing beast on pvp !!!!








c'mon.
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: Rasolomampoinon4 on January 09, 2011, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: bolo5 on January 09, 2011, 10:26:29 PM
lol, cmon splicho u can never rock as swm unless u got ultra boosted(ica/vesper 300 dagger cd) 2 rings if not dont even waste mana for fighter song/dance in mage pt rofl
every swm should go as defensive built imo
nevah ;p

say no to lol+5con sws'es
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: SplichO on January 10, 2011, 07:41:28 PM
Quote from: Rasolomampoinon4 on January 09, 2011, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: bolo5 on January 09, 2011, 10:26:29 PM
lol, cmon splicho u can never rock as swm unless u got ultra boosted(ica/vesper 300 dagger cd) 2 rings if not dont even waste mana for fighter song/dance in mage pt rofl
every swm should go as defensive built imo
nevah ;p

say no to lol+5con sws'es
My point is in AS+Concetration+ haste 150 holy + PvP (you know buff canceling with AS +PvP?), what dys you gonna put is up to you, but i think that sws can be nasty as any other class of that type. If you want a real tank build that would be SWS with +5 Con +4 dex  -9 str, IC set + Weapon with Health, celestia triger, cp,UD triger. I still think you can replace this CP and UD triger with risk haste and passive focus cose in fights vs dagger if you get lethal (specially while you attack someone with aggression to change target and there is allot of ppl that just spam specials and not trying to switch sws/bd) you can lose all CP so no matter if you got 5k or 3,7k cp.

As for what you wrote wasting mana on fighter dance song in mage pt? Wtf since when mana is problem if you got a proper EE and you do this Hunter+Fury as only d/s for fighters, offc if you want to add flame guard/stormguard/song of windstorm/song of wind then you don't got slot for fury/hunter is matter of situation and judging what should be done in pvp depending on who you pvp against.
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: ShameOnYou on January 12, 2011, 06:43:00 PM
go 1. celestial / ud / Focus 2.  celestial / ud haste 3. celestial / haste/ summoner 4.celestial / haste / focus choise is yours tryed all theese and all theese worked fine
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: GIXI on January 12, 2011, 08:11:01 PM
how bout a normal sws . no cp,etc. a random one, who goes with mix partyes

will do these triggers ?

haste trigger
ud trigger
trigger from wc ( dunno wtf it does, but i think like 5 sec immortality or so.....)
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: drjekyl on January 12, 2011, 08:53:35 PM
oly setup is haste trigger ,cele trigger,passive focus
for open pvp w/e your party is u need cele trigger,ud trigger,haste trigger(maybe change that on resist trait though i don't approve)
sws job is to protect healers/always keep songs up
in general care for party survivability
and not to go killing someone
don't hear that faggot raziel who thinks sws and bd's role on a party is to take out bow and gogo harash the enemy healer
trigger his cele more often while scratching their balls
ofc u need pvp dagger but u use that mainly on enemy healers anyway
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: Rasolomampoinon4 on January 12, 2011, 08:57:38 PM
Quote from: drjekyl on January 12, 2011, 08:53:35 PM
oly setup is haste trigger ,cele trigger,passive focus
for open pvp w/e your party is u need cele trigger,ud trigger,haste trigger(maybe change that on resist trait though i don't approve)
sws job is to protect healers/always keep songs up
in general care for party survivability
and not to go killing someone
don't hear that faggot raziel who thinks sws and bd's role on a party is to take out bow and gogo harash the enemy healer
trigger his cele more often while scratching their balls
ofc u need pvp dagger but u use that mainly on enemy healers anyway
so much bullsh1t, dunno even who r u but probably u have clue about bd/sws...not

check impulse/dory frapses and think again what is better, to stay and do nothig or to make XXXX dmg

Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: drjekyl on January 12, 2011, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: Rasolomampoinon4 on January 12, 2011, 08:57:38 PM
Quote from: drjekyl on January 12, 2011, 08:53:35 PM
oly setup is haste trigger ,cele trigger,passive focus
for open pvp w/e your party is u need cele trigger,ud trigger,haste trigger(maybe change that on resist trait though i don't approve)
sws job is to protect healers/always keep songs up
in general care for party survivability
and not to go killing someone
don't hear that faggot raziel who thinks sws and bd's role on a party is to take out bow and gogo harash the enemy healer
trigger his cele more often while scratching their balls
ofc u need pvp dagger but u use that mainly on enemy healers anyway
yep

so much bullsh1t, dunno even who r u but probably u have clue about bd/sws...not


bd /sws imba dd's
next time when u form a cp don't take daggers/archers/db/other melee fighters
just go 4 bd's combo
u will own for sure
Title: Re: SWS certificates
Post by: Rasolomampoinon4 on January 12, 2011, 09:04:17 PM
Quote from: drjekyl on January 12, 2011, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: Rasolomampoinon4 on January 12, 2011, 08:57:38 PM
Quote from: drjekyl on January 12, 2011, 08:53:35 PM
oly setup is haste trigger ,cele trigger,passive focus
for open pvp w/e your party is u need cele trigger,ud trigger,haste trigger(maybe change that on resist trait though i don't approve)
sws job is to protect healers/always keep songs up
in general care for party survivability
and not to go killing someone
don't hear that faggot raziel who thinks sws and bd's role on a party is to take out bow and gogo harash the enemy healer
trigger his cele more often while scratching their balls
ofc u need pvp dagger but u use that mainly on enemy healers anyway
yep

so much bullsh1t, dunno even who r u but probably u have clue about bd/sws...not


bd /sws imba dd's
next time when u form a cp don't take daggers/archers/db/other melee fighters
just go 4 bd's combo
u will own for sure
read what i said, didnt said bd is better dd than dagger lol, just its better to make some dmg that stay and do nothing