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Title: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Phyriel on December 14, 2010, 11:49:45 AM
I read all over that in gracia final soul hounds are like most OP class but yet i dont see it that hardly overplayed on this server. I mean there are quite a lot of them but still looking at class stat sheet on the main rpg-club page it seems there are mostly berserkers -> doombringer and really lot of casters (especially spellhowlers). I got also a question regarding summoners - i obviously know they are self-efficient grind machines but hows are they considered helpfull in const. and if ppl want to take em into parties what does summoner player have to fullfill? Also i'd like to hear some ESvsPSvsAL speaches here regarding which is better at what and in which lvl ranges:) Cheers.

P.S i seen summoners gotten some transformations skills at 83? or was that 81? nvm - if any1 has any info how usefull those transformations are it would be great. Thanks again

Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: linn on December 14, 2010, 11:55:42 AM
dude dont bother making summoner unless you wanna solo all the way up to 85. you won't get any pt unless you have organized CP or clan. only thing you can do is to solo or try trio somewhere. forget about full pt with ony catbuff or pony buff.

about 83lvl transformation, it's pretty nice to solo exp with feline king but dunno if it worked well on previou server... still you're gonna play here for like month or so to get it so don't get  excited:)
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Phyriel on December 14, 2010, 12:01:10 PM
Well i've just been playing gracia pt1 some long months ago and even this on high rate server so before i invest some serious time into lvling somethin i want to collect all the info how things changed and how things work actually on live server not just in theory:) Atm ive done some lowbie shaman (37 was going for overlord) and soul breaker (51 but seems boring to me - as all melee basicly -never liked it and never played since chronicle 3). So atm im considering going archer (moonlight sentinel) since it seems underplayed and what to say ... i love it even tho ill probably be quite lonely before any higher lvl. Another option i considered was Phantom summoner.
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: pokemontrainer on December 14, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: Phyriel on December 14, 2010, 11:49:45 AM
I read all over that in gracia final soul hounds are like most OP class but yet i dont see it that hardly overplayed on this server. I mean there are quite a lot of them but still looking at class stat sheet on the main rpg-club page it seems there are mostly berserkers -> doombringer and really lot of casters (especially spellhowlers). I got also a question regarding summoners - i obviously know they are self-efficient grind machines but hows are they considered helpfull in const. and if ppl want to take em into parties what does summoner player have to fullfill? Also i'd like to hear some ESvsPSvsAL speaches here regarding which is better at what and in which lvl ranges:) Cheers.

P.S i seen summoners gotten some transformations skills at 83? or was that 81? nvm - if any1 has any info how usefull those transformations are it would be great. Thanks again




soooooooo ES and PS have very hard times to find pt and warlock a bit less but still low chance

83 transformation - PS most op cause of 99.9% aoe stun , warlock strong blows good for oly, ES weakest from all some strong bleed

u will have very hard time to find pt with any summoner  so gl
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Phyriel on December 14, 2010, 12:55:56 PM
I guess playing alone wouldnt be an issue if I had some buffs all the time up to 85 hehe:) but i guess even summoner cant do really good soloing after 62 without any buffs ... So back to topic... i got this soul breaker as my highest char here (just playing here 2nd day) and hes 52 - this is last call for me to change class for somethin else. If you could advice me - I aint giving much about how OP class is or not but still i would like to play somethin that aint just a free frag untill full boss jawelery and s84. I also would like to pick somethin that aint terribly overplayed because i aint having fun seeing myself 1000 time a day. If you have any idea how to help me out - nice
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: bsrealm on December 15, 2010, 05:41:06 AM
TK all the way. Underplayed awesomeness.
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Flaky on December 15, 2010, 08:07:32 PM
Quote from: pokemontrainer on December 14, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: Phyriel on December 14, 2010, 11:49:45 AM
I read all over that in gracia final soul hounds are like most OP class but yet i dont see it that hardly overplayed on this server. I mean there are quite a lot of them but still looking at class stat sheet on the main rpg-club page it seems there are mostly berserkers -> doombringer and really lot of casters (especially spellhowlers). I got also a question regarding summoners - i obviously know they are self-efficient grind machines but hows are they considered helpfull in const. and if ppl want to take em into parties what does summoner player have to fullfill? Also i'd like to hear some ESvsPSvsAL speaches here regarding which is better at what and in which lvl ranges:) Cheers.

P.S i seen summoners gotten some transformations skills at 83? or was that 81? nvm - if any1 has any info how usefull those transformations are it would be great. Thanks again




soooooooo ES and PS have very hard times to find pt and warlock a bit less but still low chance

83 transformation - PS most op cause of 99.9% aoe stun , warlock strong blows good for oly, ES weakest from all some strong bleed

u will have very hard time to find pt with any summoner  so gl
+1 for this for ES and PS ... Warlocks can solo farm but need wc buff little animal..
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Timido on December 15, 2010, 08:30:14 PM
if ur goal is to play alone all the way and have fun pveing, go phantom summoner

if u'd like to join a constant party and if u enjoy underplayed chars, go on with ur shaman/overlord, but u will have to get some lvl before being recruited

gl hf
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Phyriel on December 17, 2010, 05:12:59 PM
Well and heres the deal again... ols are not welcome into const cos of wc got better buffs - ol is just a mass pvp bot to spam cp - and mby at 83 (ye right) help at melee aoe parties
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Arcain on December 17, 2010, 05:22:39 PM
OLs are for mage CPs and you'll find them there.
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Flaky on December 17, 2010, 07:20:10 PM
Quote from: Phyriel on December 17, 2010, 05:12:59 PM
Well and heres the deal again... ols are not welcome into const cos of wc got better buffs - ol is just a mass pvp bot to spam cp - and mby at 83 (ye right) help at melee aoe parties
I just lol'd on this one.. LOL! All mages need OL and there is alots of mages..
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: sluki on December 18, 2010, 04:54:19 AM
well its not like they need them...i think awaken's party has WC+SE and they are fine with it...etc

but OL is good for melee aoe party, because mobs cant heal!
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Flaky on December 18, 2010, 03:57:51 PM
Quote from: sluki on December 18, 2010, 04:54:19 AM
well its not like they need them...i think awaken's party has WC+SE and they are fine with it...etc

but OL is good for melee aoe party, because mobs cant heal!
Can't heal,can't move .. And my friend with OL have all the time party thet's why I said thet.. I know thet OLs are the best class for nukers.. so don't shit around and be cool :)
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: expecis on December 18, 2010, 04:06:08 PM
im summoner and can farm faster than some of dagger with gw!
wc+bd in pt and catakomb 2 rooms full clean need to w8 for respawn, cant understand full pts in mid rooms there also ppl who leave pt after joining and see that "oh no its sumoner" some ppl should try to play with summoner to know how good it is for farm also good eq its good for pvp!!!
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Flaky on December 18, 2010, 04:44:43 PM
Quote from: expecis on December 18, 2010, 04:06:08 PM
im summoner and can farm faster than some of dagger with gw!
wc+bd in pt and catakomb 2 rooms full clean need to w8 for respawn, cant understand full pts in mid rooms there also ppl who leave pt after joining and see that "oh no its sumoner" some ppl should try to play with summoner to know how good it is for farm also good eq its good for pvp!!!
+1 for your words
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: gw44tt on December 18, 2010, 05:10:36 PM
Quote from: expecis on December 18, 2010, 04:06:08 PM
im summoner and can farm faster than some of dagger with gw!
wc+bd in pt and catakomb 2 rooms full clean need to w8 for respawn, cant understand full pts in mid rooms there also ppl who leave pt after joining and see that "oh no its sumoner" some ppl should try to play with summoner to know how good it is for farm also good eq its good for pvp!!!

Its sad to say but wc+gw = higher dps and better cost effective
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: expecis on December 18, 2010, 05:21:33 PM
Quote from: gw44tt on December 18, 2010, 05:10:36 PM
Quote from: expecis on December 18, 2010, 04:06:08 PM
im summoner and can farm faster than some of dagger with gw!
wc+bd in pt and catakomb 2 rooms full clean need to w8 for respawn, cant understand full pts in mid rooms there also ppl who leave pt after joining and see that "oh no its sumoner" some ppl should try to play with summoner to know how good it is for farm also good eq its good for pvp!!!

Its sad to say but wc+gw = higher dps and better cost effective
GW never got p atk over than 3.5k so also you cant tank with it, die wolf die you "GAME OVER"!  :P

btw not talking about 40lvl mobs!
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Flaky on December 19, 2010, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: expecis on December 18, 2010, 04:06:08 PM
Its sad to say but wc+gw = higher dps and better cost effective

Lol dude .. You can lvl like thet to 60lvl after thet you will fail.. Go farm in ketra/varka like thet ..
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: myzor on December 19, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
a WC can lvl along with a GW (with top gear) even in HS, so at least until lvl 75. But its not an effective way of xp'ing, Just an alternative when there's no one to party with.
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: mrsandman on December 19, 2010, 03:16:33 PM
Quote from: Flaky on December 19, 2010, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: expecis on December 18, 2010, 04:06:08 PM
Its sad to say but wc+gw = higher dps and better cost effective

Lol dude .. You can lvl like thet to 60lvl after thet you will fail.. Go farm in ketra/varka like thet ..
i did varka ally 2 as a bishop with a wolf and he was 70 with no problems xD
Title: Re: Soul Hound and summoners?
Post by: Flaky on December 20, 2010, 03:47:48 PM
Quote from: mrsandman on December 19, 2010, 03:16:33 PM
Quote from: Flaky on December 19, 2010, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: expecis on December 18, 2010, 04:06:08 PM
Its sad to say but wc+gw = higher dps and better cost effective

Lol dude .. You can lvl like thet to 60lvl after thet you will fail.. Go farm in ketra/varka like thet ..
i did varka ally 2 as a bishop with a wolf and he was 70 with no problems xD
But you had WC near you.. w/o buffs wolf is weak...