It would be nice if you atleast could enable *whispering mode* ability, since if someone pms my shopbot for an offer, I cant rly do much about it atm except pming back with another char/log the shopbot. I can understand the other changes, however, not beeing able to move at all is a big pain in the ass when setting up a shop, although I can understand its purpose. Atleast we will be able to see the chat now.
Sorry if its the wrong section.
Btw why when i put 4items to sell, trade bot set shop only with 1 item? New limits are little bit wrong... Pls check it. Cuz a lot of ppl will make new and new trade bots, if they can put only 1item per shop with setting.... Ofc we can set more items handly, but when someone have crafter at trade bot to make shots 4+ type of shots and auto setup will give only 1 type, it sux ...
And wtf I just noticed that you cant trade your tradebots?! I dont have a computer that can handle many clients and logging the tradebot EVERY TIME I want to put new items or retrieve money, renders it to a very clumsy tool and more or less loses the point of it. Please make the tradebot worth to use again.
Yea I rly hope that the one about only 1 item/shopbot is a bug, because Im not looking forward to see the market even more crowded with shopbot than what it already is.
And is it only me or you cant trade hair accessoaries and masks anymore? Not even with normal trade?
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 06:13:59 AM
And is it only me or you cant trade hair accessoaries and masks anymore? Not even with normal trade?
look at subscribe of accessories some of then cant be trade...
And yes no trade with trade bot? ehm relog everytime when i need restock it or when i need give some new items for sell or mats to recraft (for example abone > cbp)? Its little big lol... Cmon guys make it little bit simple to ppl who try make some adenas via tradebots...
Quote from: gismo on December 11, 2010, 07:07:32 AM
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 06:13:59 AM
And is it only me or you cant trade hair accessoaries and masks anymore? Not even with normal trade?
look at subscribe of accessories some of then cant be trade...
And yes no trade with trade bot? ehm relog everytime when i need restock it or when i need give some new items for sell or mats to recraft (for example abone > cbp)? Its little big lol... Cmon guys make it little bit simple to ppl who try make some adenas via tradebots...
Yes I know, but for example demon horns I was able to trade before the restart, but now I cant anymore. And yes, the whole thing about making money from the market(one of the best thing in lineage with its player built economy) becomes impossible, unless you have a couple of good comp and can afford the electricity bills for letting them on 24/7. As it is now I have to focus on one or two specific items to sell, instead of as before, beeing able to browse the market and then sell a wide selection of items, shots, mats etc.
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 06:13:59 AM
And wtf I just noticed that you cant trade your tradebots?! I dont have a computer that can handle many clients and logging the tradebot EVERY TIME I want to put new items or retrieve money, renders it to a very clumsy tool and more or less loses the point of it. Please make the tradebot worth to use again.
Yea I rly hope that the one about only 1 item/shopbot is a bug, because Im not looking forward to see the market even more crowded with shopbot than what it already is.
And is it only me or you cant trade hair accessoaries and masks anymore? Not even with normal trade?
cant trade
hair accessoaries and masks - From packet-hack (
hallowen event multisell)? Yes = can't drop,sell, trade, delete! It's your problem, because used
packet-hack tools
Fix bot sell slots, after next restarts.
Quote from: LagysFey on December 11, 2010, 07:34:16 AM
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 06:13:59 AM
And wtf I just noticed that you cant trade your tradebots?! I dont have a computer that can handle many clients and logging the tradebot EVERY TIME I want to put new items or retrieve money, renders it to a very clumsy tool and more or less loses the point of it. Please make the tradebot worth to use again.
Yea I rly hope that the one about only 1 item/shopbot is a bug, because Im not looking forward to see the market even more crowded with shopbot than what it already is.
And is it only me or you cant trade hair accessoaries and masks anymore? Not even with normal trade?
cant trade hair accessoaries and masks - From packet-hack (hallowen event multisell)? Yes can't sell, trade, delete! It's your problem because used packet-hack
Can you please explain how it is possible to packet hack, you don't have any protection against it? I bought a couple of masks and horns from a player selling them for 30kk each, and I think many others did the same. Ofc I got suspicious and expected some kind of item multiplier hack, but I thought that the server had protection against such.
Thank you for the fix of sell slots atleast, it does big difference. It's not possible to make the bots tradeable aswell? The possibilities of exploiting that option is not very big when you can't even move the bot.
Quote from: LagysFey on December 11, 2010, 07:36:00 AM
Fix bot sell slots, after next restarts.
thx, pls allow trade them too, it will help too much for restock it
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 07:41:39 AM
Quote from: LagysFey on December 11, 2010, 07:34:16 AM
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 06:13:59 AM
And wtf I just noticed that you cant trade your tradebots?! I dont have a computer that can handle many clients and logging the tradebot EVERY TIME I want to put new items or retrieve money, renders it to a very clumsy tool and more or less loses the point of it. Please make the tradebot worth to use again.
Yea I rly hope that the one about only 1 item/shopbot is a bug, because Im not looking forward to see the market even more crowded with shopbot than what it already is.
And is it only me or you cant trade hair accessoaries and masks anymore? Not even with normal trade?
cant trade hair accessoaries and masks - From packet-hack (hallowen event multisell)? Yes can't sell, trade, delete! It's your problem because used packet-hack
Can you please explain how it is possible to packet hack, you don't have any protection against it? I bought a couple of masks and horns from a player selling them for 30kk each, and I think many others did the same. Ofc I got suspicious and expected some kind of item multiplier hack, but I thought that the server had protection against such.
Thank you for the fix of sell slots atleast, it does big difference. It's not possible to make the bots tradeable aswell? The possibilities of exploiting that option is not very big when you can't even move the bot.
Send to support.
When and from character you buy it.
Mask and horns from item hallowen 2006. 180 items from buged multisell. now banned 4 accountss with 160 items. Others can't delete, sell, drop, trade it.
Items created by character chivasRville, clan Laylow - banned.
Quote from: LagysFey on December 11, 2010, 07:50:30 AM
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 07:41:39 AM
Quote from: LagysFey on December 11, 2010, 07:34:16 AM
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 06:13:59 AM
And wtf I just noticed that you cant trade your tradebots?! I dont have a computer that can handle many clients and logging the tradebot EVERY TIME I want to put new items or retrieve money, renders it to a very clumsy tool and more or less loses the point of it. Please make the tradebot worth to use again.
Yea I rly hope that the one about only 1 item/shopbot is a bug, because Im not looking forward to see the market even more crowded with shopbot than what it already is.
And is it only me or you cant trade hair accessoaries and masks anymore? Not even with normal trade?
cant trade hair accessoaries and masks - From packet-hack (hallowen event multisell)? Yes can't sell, trade, delete! It's your problem because used packet-hack
Can you please explain how it is possible to packet hack, you don't have any protection against it? I bought a couple of masks and horns from a player selling them for 30kk each, and I think many others did the same. Ofc I got suspicious and expected some kind of item multiplier hack, but I thought that the server had protection against such.
Thank you for the fix of sell slots atleast, it does big difference. It's not possible to make the bots tradeable aswell? The possibilities of exploiting that option is not very big when you can't even move the bot.
Send to support.
When and from character you buy it.
The problem is that I don't remember the name, it was something in polish I think, but I will try to remember. Anyway, the question remains, how is it possible for a person to use this kind of exploit without you noticing it? The character selling this items was just a shopbot and now the money from aleast 70 sold items(over 2kkk) is on the main char. I hope this will not happen again and that its not possible to multiply other type of items?
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 07:58:12 AM
Quote from: LagysFey on December 11, 2010, 07:50:30 AM
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 07:41:39 AM
Quote from: LagysFey on December 11, 2010, 07:34:16 AM
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 06:13:59 AM
And wtf I just noticed that you cant trade your tradebots?! I dont have a computer that can handle many clients and logging the tradebot EVERY TIME I want to put new items or retrieve money, renders it to a very clumsy tool and more or less loses the point of it. Please make the tradebot worth to use again.
Yea I rly hope that the one about only 1 item/shopbot is a bug, because Im not looking forward to see the market even more crowded with shopbot than what it already is.
And is it only me or you cant trade hair accessoaries and masks anymore? Not even with normal trade?
cant trade hair accessoaries and masks - From packet-hack (hallowen event multisell)? Yes can't sell, trade, delete! It's your problem because used packet-hack
Can you please explain how it is possible to packet hack, you don't have any protection against it? I bought a couple of masks and horns from a player selling them for 30kk each, and I think many others did the same. Ofc I got suspicious and expected some kind of item multiplier hack, but I thought that the server had protection against such.
Thank you for the fix of sell slots atleast, it does big difference. It's not possible to make the bots tradeable aswell? The possibilities of exploiting that option is not very big when you can't even move the bot.
Send to support.
When and from character you buy it.
The problem is that I don't remember the name, it was something in polish I think, but I will try to remember. Anyway, the question remains, how is it possible for a person to use this kind of exploit without you noticing it? The character selling this items was just a shopbot and now the money from aleast 70 sold items(over 2kkk) is on the main char. I hope this will not happen again and that its not possible to multiply other type of items?
It so happened that we forgot to remove an Event-items . And someone used the now banned.
Quote from: LagysFey on December 11, 2010, 08:04:16 AM
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 07:58:12 AM
Quote from: LagysFey on December 11, 2010, 07:50:30 AM
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 07:41:39 AM
Quote from: LagysFey on December 11, 2010, 07:34:16 AM
Quote from: Aravalen on December 11, 2010, 06:13:59 AM
And wtf I just noticed that you cant trade your tradebots?! I dont have a computer that can handle many clients and logging the tradebot EVERY TIME I want to put new items or retrieve money, renders it to a very clumsy tool and more or less loses the point of it. Please make the tradebot worth to use again.
Yea I rly hope that the one about only 1 item/shopbot is a bug, because Im not looking forward to see the market even more crowded with shopbot than what it already is.
And is it only me or you cant trade hair accessoaries and masks anymore? Not even with normal trade?
cant trade hair accessoaries and masks - From packet-hack (hallowen event multisell)? Yes can't sell, trade, delete! It's your problem because used packet-hack
Can you please explain how it is possible to packet hack, you don't have any protection against it? I bought a couple of masks and horns from a player selling them for 30kk each, and I think many others did the same. Ofc I got suspicious and expected some kind of item multiplier hack, but I thought that the server had protection against such.
Thank you for the fix of sell slots atleast, it does big difference. It's not possible to make the bots tradeable aswell? The possibilities of exploiting that option is not very big when you can't even move the bot.
Send to support.
When and from character you buy it.
The problem is that I don't remember the name, it was something in polish I think, but I will try to remember. Anyway, the question remains, how is it possible for a person to use this kind of exploit without you noticing it? The character selling this items was just a shopbot and now the money from aleast 70 sold items(over 2kkk) is on the main char. I hope this will not happen again and that its not possible to multiply other type of items?
It so happened that we forgot to remove an Event-items . And someone used the now banned.
Ok aslong as it doesnt happen again Im happy, even though I lost 270kk buying the crap...could be worse
give us back old trade bots please.. remove them to can't move but .. can't trade .. this is not good and I'm sure in that the economy will boom to overprice of everting :X
forbid all type of chat from tradebots only imo, not trade options
even whisper i dont want a bot spamming in pm (someone will never know i dont really know how bots works and if they can spam ur pms)
but overall this is perfect, thanks admin, peace
my trade shop Proseller is 99.9% time on bot and all pm him to buy trade stuff now i cant even anserw pls fix this
if i go to vending options and make a craft shop from there and check auto-setup store it says "no recipes have been registered",that means if i get logged off and i'm not around to set up shop again,auto setup is useless?
oh and i suppose that would be the same for all type of stores? just asking cause i haven't tried yet
Quote from: Proseller on December 11, 2010, 10:49:41 AM
my trade shop Proseller is 99.9% time on bot and all pm him to buy trade stuff now i cant even anserw pls fix this
Please don't do this. Once u allow one kind of chat, idiots will have an example on how to brake protection faster. They can pm from the main char they have ingame the ones that want to buy something. No more bot spam, less strain on the server! Can potentially fix the crashes at evening when numbers are really high!
Quote from: LagysFey on December 11, 2010, 07:36:00 AM
Fix bot sell slots, after next restarts.
trade bot issues will be fixed after next restart
Finally peace at shout chat ....this pollution of chat was making me skip towns :D
Overpriced, not using bots, world will end ....bla bla bla ppl will adjust it like to everything else.
At end ....want more adena= spend more time on trade bots!
This trade bot is virtually useless. Unable to automatically set the buying or selling more than 1 thing, it's nothing, you can not even pass items from the main character for him. It's already better exercise ordinary game, because there is at least the trade works .. :(
Quote from: baho on December 11, 2010, 10:58:53 AM
Quote from: Proseller on December 11, 2010, 10:49:41 AM
my trade shop Proseller is 99.9% time on bot and all pm him to buy trade stuff now i cant even anserw pls fix this
Please don't do this. Once u allow one kind of chat, idiots will have an example on how to brake protection faster. They can pm from the main char they have ingame the ones that want to buy something. No more bot spam, less strain on the server! Can potentially fix the crashes at evening when numbers are really high!
yea rigth i see that i can recive pm so its no problem for me.
But another fail , cant trade with my bot so evry time when i bring items for sale i need log on normal client lol
Poor you, that is sooo sad :( having to do all that stuff to add new items for sale. It's sad, really sad :'(
add the option of see players again.. i (and i imagine that others also) use it for when i log the crafter, check a clear place. Right now i don't know how is the place where i am logging, logging maybe up to another character
Have the server been restarted yet? Because atm the only way to put several items in the shop is do to it through Basic actions>Private Store - Sell and if thats the only option, then we have to resetup the shop manually every time the server crashes(which happens pretty often), instead of in the options and the vendor options with autosetup feature. But I guess you meant after the daily restart?
Why so much butt hurt, while there is an OOG (tradebot) working there will be always option to crack server so easy that all protection they do against 3 d pt programs are useless and don't last to long.
Tradebot has not really much to do with that. They most likely redone some packets that a tradebot can't handle. It won't help breaking that protection at all. Blocking features like the vending ones (autosell/buy/craft) is something that was usefull and hope it can be brought back. Never cared about chat but if you still says it's being spammed then just disable it for good cause that's how it should look like on crowded server.
if you don't want to read what bots are spaming in town you can turn of trade chat or shout when you go to tawn , its so simple ... :D
yeah trade bot was one of the good things which server had. I dont see any difference before and now same shit same shout spam.
Thx for fixing the multi shop option, but can you please make it possible to trade the bot? Sure I would wish you to fix many other things such as whisper, beeing able to see players and moving, but I can understand that you have your reasons for not accepting those. But the trading limitation I can't understand. Having to manually log the shopbot EVERY time I want to resupply is a big time consumer. This will especially strike against the shots sellers, since the dwarf can't carry too many shots, and in order to not having to log the bots all the time, they will raise the prices. As it is now the price for bssc and bssb is already way too high due to low competition, now it will be even worse.
The ability to trade the shopbot is such a simple thing, but nevertheless essential in order for the shopbot to be a flexible and useful tool. So please re-enable it. The whole server would benefit from it.
Delete trade bots .... simply people will afk buy/sell only when they are not playing. Another solution is instead of 3 box only 2 box so u use 1 client to sell.
Trade bot is one of rare stupid features that this server has.
Quote from: SandStorm on December 12, 2010, 03:52:41 PM
Delete trade bots .... simply people will afk buy/sell only when they are not playing. Another solution is instead of 3 box only 2 box so u use 1 client to sell.
Trade bot is one of rare stupid features that this server has.
i dont see any stupidity with trade bot since u can't do anything who would violate server rules. Name least one stupid feature
Quote from: SandStorm on December 12, 2010, 03:52:41 PM
Delete trade bots .... simply people will afk buy/sell only when they are not playing. Another solution is instead of 3 box only 2 box so u use 1 client to sell.
Trade bot is one of rare stupid features that this server has.
no thx i destroyed a lot of mouse on another server cuz i craft shots for sell....
Btw LagysFey can your programers remove sending trade bots to Fantasy Island? It will be good from you :)
Quote from: gismo on December 12, 2010, 05:47:55 PM
Quote from: SandStorm on December 12, 2010, 03:52:41 PM
Delete trade bots .... simply people will afk buy/sell only when they are not playing. Another solution is instead of 3 box only 2 box so u use 1 client to sell.
Trade bot is one of rare stupid features that this server has.
no thx i destroyed a lot of mouse on another server cuz i craft shots for sell....
Ever heard of clicker?
Quote from: gismo on December 12, 2010, 07:01:41 PM
Btw LagysFey can your programers remove sending trade bots to Fantasy Island? It will be good from you :)
Yes, which bots they send are completely random from my experience,sometimes a seller sitting close to the gk(could by subject to blocking) but sometimes its a dwarf sitting in an appropriate place in the shop-zones of Giran, surrounded by dozens of dwarves who didn't get moved. It's not particularly funny and it doesn't help the server a slightest bit. The millions of dwarves blocking the wh of aden and scamshopers remain, but honest and hard working dwarves get punished?
Quote from: SandStorm on December 12, 2010, 03:52:41 PM
Delete trade bots .... simply people will afk buy/sell only when they are not playing. Another solution is instead of 3 box only 2 box so u use 1 client to sell.
Trade bot is one of rare stupid features that this server has.
Like I mentioned before, not everyone have the type of computer whom can handle 3 clients. And yes, maybe one shop is enough for you if you only sell items you drop when grinding, but if you rly want to make the bigger amounts of money, its essential to have many shops running.
Quote from: baho on December 12, 2010, 07:31:30 PM
Quote from: gismo on December 12, 2010, 05:47:55 PM
Quote from: SandStorm on December 12, 2010, 03:52:41 PM
Delete trade bots .... simply people will afk buy/sell only when they are not playing. Another solution is instead of 3 box only 2 box so u use 1 client to sell.
no thx i destroyed a lot of mouse on another server cuz i craft shots for sell....
Ever heard of clicker?
ofc i do, but here are banable, so ....
Quote from: baho on December 12, 2010, 07:31:30 PM
Quote from: gismo on December 12, 2010, 05:47:55 PM
Quote from: SandStorm on December 12, 2010, 03:52:41 PM
Delete trade bots .... simply people will afk buy/sell only when they are not playing. Another solution is instead of 3 box only 2 box so u use 1 client to sell.
Trade bot is one of rare stupid features that this server has.
no thx i destroyed a lot of mouse on another server cuz i craft shots for sell....
Ever heard of clicker?
suggesting illegal tool ? =( or is it ok if not afk ? =o
lol i'm sure no one would cry for crafting shots/mats with clicker. Afaik clicker is allowed as long as u don't afk farm with it (assisting the MA). So ... take care
admins .. isn't it better to give us back trade to bots so we can restock them faster ... I have 5 dwarfs crafting shots and sell and I'm tired to log then in game to restock every time , and if you want to remove people farming with bots just remove party invite for them :}
Quote from: SandStorm on December 12, 2010, 03:52:41 PM
Delete trade bots .... simply people will afk buy/sell only when they are not playing. Another solution is instead of 3 box only 2 box so u use 1 client to sell.
Trade bot is one of rare stupid features that this server has.
You, sir, are an idiot.
fix the craft shop setup pls,if i get disconnected it's bye-bye shop, cause i have to manually set it up again. :-\
Quote from: Aurelius on December 12, 2010, 09:40:20 PM
lol i'm sure no one would cry for crafting shots/mats with clicker. Afaik clicker is allowed as long as u don't afk farm with it (assisting the MA). So ... take care
there is no sense in allow something, that in x and y situations becomes ban action, iam assuming because is more easy to check if somebody is using just clicker on MA insteand of right click/macro/etc, than somebody crafting
Quote from: Udunnome on December 13, 2010, 08:50:53 AM
fix the craft shop setup pls,if i get disconnected it's bye-bye shop, cause i have to manually set it up again. :-\
is fixed, at least yesterday it worked like always for me
to tell you the truth yesterday i didn't even try to set up through vending tab(at least that i remember of).i assumed if the GMs haven't given an answer yet it still doesn't work.i'll have to try when i get home, tnx :)
Can someone PLEASE answer me why you move my shopbots randomly to Fantasy Island? Was some time ago last time but now it happened again. It's painful enough having to open new clients every time I want to resupply my sellers, no need to paint acid gel all over the wound by moving them around aswell=o
Afaik Lagys said some time ago that this is some retail feature in the files. And it kind of randomly ports shops to fantasy island depending on God knows what variables.
And only from Aden to FI
Quote from: Pel8 on December 14, 2010, 03:03:02 AM
And only from Aden to FI
No, I've had dwarves from Giran and Goddard moved too.
maybe it's walker undercover? you put a shop and when you aren't looking they walk :P